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Learn from History by nimer Learn from History by nimer
History repeats itself. Bush, Colin, Rice, and Dick are out and about pushing their Crusade. Even he admitted thats what it was until he pulled this statement back after nations voiced their resent.

If we look back at the time of the Crusades we realise that this was the darkest period of Christianity. It was also the longest war ever in the history of mankind. During the time that a Crusader bore the Cross, he was under the protection of the Church and exempted from all taxes as well as free to commit all sins. For almost three decades Christians were the most barbaric humans to walk the earth pummelling through muslim women and children in equal right as the muslim soldiers in the name of a false religious license. Hurrendous crimes were committed in the name of Christianity. Ever wonder why Hollywood only makes romantic movies based during the Crusades period and not actual factual ones? For the reason that the facts behind it were extremely ugly.

Now Bush wants to do the same thing. Even I think I'm being paranoid myself. But look at the facts - Afghanistan (muslim country), Iraq (Muslim country), Syria was threatened (Muslim country), Iran (Muslim country). Open your eyes people. This really is a Crusade. Oil and money is just a convenient bonus and distraction. It just gets worse.

Ever wondered how the Crusades ended? The 'end of the line' ruler was Richard "The Lion-hearted". Married only out of convenience he never had any kids. Actually historians say that was coz he was gay. He had no interest in looking after his people. He almost bankrupted the european nations and put all the money into this 'campaign'. His arch rival was Salahuddin Ayubi. He was the ruler who for twenty years braved the storm of the Crusaders and ultimately pushed back the combined forces of Europe which had come to swarm the Muslim lands. The world has hardly witnessed a more chivalrous and humane conqueror. Even in those times he gave all profits from the war to the people. When he died he didnt even own a piece of burial cloth to be buried in. He always freed the women and children prisoners of war and the men for ransom money.

This piece of Salahuddin Ayubi and his forces setting forth to wage war against the Christian Terrorists was made by Bruuz and I in vectors. Took about three days.

p.s. view this in full size people! Will look much nicer!
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falconlord5 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Few problems with your history:

One: The First Crusade was called because of Muslim conquest of lands in the Christian Byzantine Empire. Also to the keep the Europeans from murdering each other every few weeks, as an outgrowth of the Peace of God movement. That a peace movement (of which Pope Urban, the guy who called the Crusade, was the head of) went from "Don't kill each other" to "Please just go kill somebody, anybody else" tells you how bad Europe was at the time.

Two: The Church could not exempt you from taxes. That was secular, not religous.

Three: Historians do not believe that Richard the Lion-Hearted was gay. Bisexual, maybe. But as he had many, many extra-marital affairs with women, and at least one bastard son that he acknowledged, it's rather unlikely he was gay.

Four: The Third Crusade was not the last Crusade. There were at least six (depending on how you count the Children's and Albigensian Crusades) culminating in the Ninth Crusade. The Third is the most famous thanks to King Richie and Saladin.
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zakirs Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2008
awsome work bro :)
ewitwins Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2007  Student Interface Designer
Did the holy wars involve lies, oil, and the possibility of us using a nuke? Yes people, the government has though of just clusterf**cking the place with a nuke, no matter how horrifying the idea, the government WILL think of it.
bakatron Featured By Owner May 16, 2007  Professional General Artist
SkirnirEnsiferum Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
The crusaders are becoming bankrupted, as their creditors to the east are weary of shouldering the mounting debts. When the dollar falls by half against the euro over a few years, one knows the end of these foolish escapades is in sight. :rip:
tuilliIndustries Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2007
I love the style you used. As a matter of fact it reminds me of the illustrations of Beowulf we used to have back in our highschool literature books. As for your description you pretty much gore your own message with your skewed view on history.

"he was under the protection of the Church and exempted from all taxes as well as free to commit all sins. For almost three decades Christians were the most barbaric humans to walk the earth pummelling through muslim women and children in equal right as the muslim soldiers in the name of a false religious license."

1. All Christians are under the protection of the Church, not just Crusaders.
2. They were not "free to commit all sins." What the Church granted for embarking on the Crusades was absolution for the corporal punishments of previous sins, and a promise that if one should die while on a Crusade then they shall go to heaven (Much like martyrdom and external Jihad). However if a Crusader - like the French bastard Raynald de Chattilion - were to commit atrocities in the manner which you seem to have applied to all Crusaders (Which is just like saying all German soldiers in WWII were NAZI fanatics), then the immediate skip to Heaven would be void, as the man/men would've died in a state of mortal sin.
3. "Christians were the most barbaric humans to walk the earth." Interesting, I didn't know all Christians embarked on the Crusades, nor was I aware that every last one of them fell under your steroetype. As a matter of fact the Knights Templar, a military order made up of mainly warrior monks, were considered on a large scale to be the ideal of chivalry. Gracious, devout, respectful, kind, fearless in battle, and adhering to a strict code of conduct which covered all ground from private life to rules of engagement. If you go back and read some actual history you will find that even their enemies had respect for them and were more than honored to face them in combat.

Also, as brutal as you claim the whole lot of Crusaders were, you seem to be forgetting why the Crusades were launched in the first place.
Turkish Muslims raiding the Byzantine Empire and attacking columns of Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land for the win anybody?

There will be atrocities committed in war, but they will come from BOTH sides.

As for good ol'Salahuddin Al-Ayyubi, who happens to be one of my personal heroes for his cunning and honour, he did not push back the Europeans as you claim. In the Second Crusade he did indeed retake Jerusalem and allow the remainig Christian soldiers safe departure from the land, but in the third Crusade (The King's Crusade) where he squared off against old Richard (Who seems more bisexual than homosexual) the end resolution was a treaty which allowed Christians to re-enter the Holy Land.

Also it would not be totally accurate to refer to Richard and Salahuddin as arch rivals, as though they did fight one another the respect they had for one another was incredible. It actually seemed to border on a type of sitcom friendship. In an instance where Richard took ill, Salahuddin had mountain snow, fresh fruit, and medicine sent to comfort him. Salahuddin greatly admired Richard, for he was a leader who would be at the very front lines with his men. He was actually quite a terrifying spectacle in battle. The Muslims described him as a furious giant who cleaved men in half with his battle axe without tire.

Also it would not be proper to refer to Salahuddin as a humane conqueror as technically he was not a conqueror. He even went to such far lengths as not using seige engines such as catapults if there was a chance he would damage a holy shrine, be it Muslim, Christian, or Jew, just so people would not associate him or those under his command as conquerors.

"Now Bush wants to do the same thing. Even I think I'm being paranoid myself. But look at the facts - Afghanistan (muslim country), Iraq (Muslim country), Syria was threatened (Muslim country), Iran (Muslim country)"

Though I along with many of my fellow man are oppossed to the reasons for the invasion of Iraq saying that Bush wants to do the same thing is just ridiculous. The purpose of the Crusades was to make safe the Holy Land for all pilgrims, so if Bush is doing the same thing then why is the US government so friendly with Isreal?

The shmuck did call it a crusade true, but calling something a crusade doesn't make it a holy war.
The definition of "Crusade" is:
any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea.
For example, you could crusade against child abuse. In Bush's case, he's claiming that the idea is "Democracy".

"But look at the facts - Afghanistan (muslim country), Iraq (Muslim country), Syria was threatened (Muslim country), Iran (Muslim country)"
Yes, they are Muslim countries, what's your point? In the Second World War the Allies invaded Muslim land, Catholic land, Atheist land, and Pagan land yet there was no religious agenda behind that and Afghanistan struck at the USA in force, so why does this situation tie in with the Crusades of the medieval era any more than those other examples?

Once more, I love the image. The movements, the sword-waving horseman, the dust cloud, I love it all. Just remember to get your historical facts straight before you try to give a history lesson and leave such blatant bias at the door in exchange for a little patience and grace.
iranians Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2006
:clap: g00d w0rk & info
prima275 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2006
lol It seems unfair to list religion as the sole cause of problems, godless/religionless nations have done their fair murder, rape and so on. Its people that are the problem. about the crusades, those lands the crusaders went to were christian lands way before they ever were Islamic lands. lol and the bush part, most those countries listed are usually the ones that promote terrorism, cause problems, are ruled by asshats and so on. But that aside, its a nice pic. As ~mladen said it does give a "mythical feel of brave warriors riding into battle"
Aranthulas Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2006
WOW what a piece, this deserves much more attention, i love it.
LiquidNerve Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2005
I didn't even leave a comment on your deviation. I'm a Medieval history buff so I immediately found this piece quite interesting. Excellent use of smoke/ dust to convey to feeling of a large cavalry formation in motion. Yes Salahadin was indeed a model of chivalry.
LiquidNerve Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2005
By the way, I didn't even comment on your deviation. I'm a Medieval history buff and so immediately found this peice interesting. Excellent use of smoke/dust. It gives the scenery the sense of a huge cavalry formation in motion.
LiquidNerve Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2005
I must admot that the war in Iraq is most certainly not for the well being of it's citizen. That there is a religious agenda is stretching it a little. This war is about oil, plain and simple.

Now you have a few misconceptions about the crusades. Yes it was a very dark time in history, however it was not an 200 year long war. There were many periods of peace between the Latin Kingdoms in the Levant and their Muslim neighbors. Also, those that undertook the crusades were not exempt from sin. Only the religious military orders recieved special previledges.

Christians were not the only ones to commit barbarous acts in the name of their relgion. The Muslims were responsible for many senseless deaths, destruction, rape etc., which they committed in the name of their respective deity.

All in all, Christianity, Judaism and Islam have all been cancers of this world.
rey Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2003  Professional Digital Artist
great art, i really cant agree with the description cause in a way you say how were doing this in the present day. Which is not so!
mladen Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003
I like the connection with past with present crusades, it always brings out the best of people's political opinions.
I'm not going to voice my own opinions right now, instead I'll say that the artwork has that excellent mythical feel of brave warriors riding into battle, and the sword overlapping and escaping the border has an excellent effect of bringing out the action.
But whats all this whinging about the purple horse? Purple is the colour of royalty after all.
imrik Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2003  Professional Interface Designer
I just can agree. The vector techniqu is turning out as big part of new art. And yes... it is making history. Very good to see people making thoughts about the PRESENT.
jay-oh-el-ay Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2003   Filmographer
this pic actually makes history exciting
zoom Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2003
gr8 work and descreption!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +FAVS
radiances Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2003
nice artwork, although i don't quite agree with your description.
nimer Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2003
I dint quite understand what you were trying to say on my Learn From History piece since it was a bit confusing but thanks for commenting anyhoo Stilgar.

Almost everything you said I agree with so that just makes your attempt at contradicting (?) my opinion just that much odder.

I just want to end this by saying all words (except the words of God in the Holy Books) are opinionated. And thats including the History you read in books and learn at school. Remember that. :) (Smile) :) (Smile) :) (Smile)
stilgar Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2003  Professional General Artist
While I LOVE the DEVIATION Clap , I think the history lesson is a bit out of context.

If you will remember your history, the Inquisitions AND the Crusades were both called on by what now???Confused
MEN!, and if you have read a bible you would know that the Crusade and Inquisitions where EXPRESSLEY forbidden by what Jesus taught! You are the weakest link and will NOT be missed! WHAT!?! Jawdrop Yes, Truth

So know you some idea what Christians REALLY know about the Crusade or Inquisition, maybe people should eduacte, and
quit trying to Juggle history into THEIR views...Chew on that a little first and then look for yourself, before saying what a professor or person who has no IDEA what is the actual fact of the matter. but then again, I have done the same.............So....Thumbs Up and keep the art comming!!

Good job on the artwork!
Maybe next time you will hit the Target on the history accuracy.
irtaqa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2003
Ok now its the 4th time I'm trying to comment on this wonderful submission. ~nimer its an honor to have you in our community ~irtaqa. I also appreciate your efforts in this piece and ofcourse ~bruuz too. You both did an awesome job. +fav
irtaqa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2003
Well I don't think there's any need to say more about this cuz everything is already said by others.

I would just say that you made us real proud by making such great artwork. I would also appreciate ~bruuz for creating such an awesome artwork and you giving it breathtaking life :) (Smile) +fav
iori-yagami Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2003
Not only did the crusaders kill muslims, they also killed Christian-Arabs, because they were simply in their way. Any superpower af any era has an allotted time, to rule, to plunder, to flaunt around their power, but like all the superpowers before them, they go down in history as "There was once a mighty country...". The Greeks, the Romans, the Pharoahs and all of the other ones (before or after) are nothing but just pieces of history, eras or periods in the whole continuity of time.

I talk 2 much.

And Numair, your work really rocks, there is something about a man and his horse, some chemistry or other. I don't know but the purple hair is something different. It adds a touch of artistry to it. Re4ally nice work.
kurotokage Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2003  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It reminds me of Miller's '300'... Very good piece of art!
smith Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2003
"Nimer u gotta stop making us look so bad !!!"

yeah damn right this is fantastic!
kashghan Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2003
Numair...this is u ROCK!!!!! I simply love this...and yes Xavi is rite...u R making us look bad hehe...keep rulin!!!!!
hallucination Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003   Digital Artist
this is really nice, the vector is enhanced so much more with the description you provided.
great job dude :) (Smile)
batness Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
.....the art is amazing, but the message is so very true...
I am 1/2 Iraqi, so the things we are doing in WHATEVER name are hurting me...I have seen family killed and it is just stupid. FOR WHAT?!

I hope to God that the madness ends soon......
great insight, and nice piece...*I suck at Vector art*
xaviara Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
Nimer u gotta stop making us look so bad !!!

Its brilliant ! I mean the theme as well as the deviation is soo fabulous ! Hmmm i think i'll have to come to islo to kidnap u, so u can gimme tricks on how to do all this. As i have said before U ROCK !! amazing , simply amazing !.

minedia Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003 has movement! I love it! Great work! ^_^
raiondas Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
yes people in power should learn from the past, but then they are too busy being powerful and arogant and ignorant.

god (or gods, etc) in government doesnt work.
Killing people in the name of any religion, is against the religion they practice, they shall pay for their crimes.

we live in the 21st century, you'd think we have evolved to respect all of humanity..
Nimer, I have to say this one really spoke out to me. AWSOME F*cking job! Best pic ever! Clap

Love and Peace everyone!
jellycious Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
oh wow... i really dig this... the details to it is amazing...
i like the swirling dust of it, reminds me of disney's hercules... very nice..
the sword that overlaps the border adds a great flare to it.. Thumbs Up on that...
the only thing that bothers me tho, is the horse's hair... :| (Blank Stare) iits.... purple..... XD
faizan Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
nice work numair..
christianp Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
A bit of a biased view, but I suppose this kind of art isn't the best place to show both sides of a story..
Really good art, though :D (Big Grin)
cheeks-74 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003   General Artist
awesomely done! it reminds me of fairytail type of style, or myths. i like the depth on it! keep it up!
smurfwreck Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
As much as I hate what our government is doing, I can only say this, hopefully he's only got a little over a year before Election time. If the nation truely isn't with him and his actions, hopefully, and I stress that, hopefully he won't be in office for another term. Though the compition isn't looking all that strong.

As for the drawing. That's some rally nice work. I love that it's in shades of secondary colors.
icreed Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003
Great artwork....reminds me of this illustration i saw in my history book back in 7th!....
i wouldnt wana start a debt by giving my opinions abt the war for power and all but all im gona say is... we brought this on ourselvs.... we muslims when together are not there for eachother and whenever ONE of us gets harmed or bulldozed like iraq we go about crying about the CRIMES against muslims.....all im trying to say is we are not one!!! we should be but we are not!
anways...great artwork
P.s: is it just me or the tail and the mane of the horse really is purple.. "a thing which them *EVIL* knights and nobles used to do? u know to represent their flag and all! :S annnnyways
nice work!
bruuz Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2003  Professional Traditional Artist
yeaaaah!i get to be the first to comment!
ahem... hmmmm very nice work indeed .....
make more .. you guys are the best.. you should think about taking over dev art! youre that good! lol!
i love this numair!
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